Navigating the New Guild Management Panel in WoW (World of Warcraft) 8.0.1

A lot has changed in patch 8.0.1 one of which is the shiny new guild panel.  Here is a walk through of how to use your new guild panel.  Your access will vary based on your permissions in your guild.  I will be showing you the Guild Leader level of permissions.

Guild Panel Navigation

Along the right side of the guild interface are the Chat, Roster, Perks, and Info tabs.  This is how we switch between the different pages shown below.

Here is what the Chat Panel looks like.  You can join the in-game chat channel for your guild or community here.  You can also join the voice chat for your guild or community by clicking on the headset icon.  As far as I can tell you must be logged in to use this feature which is very limiting for guilds that like to use voice chat to socialize both while they’re playing wow and while they’re playing other games.

Guild Panel Chat

  1. Community Summary – This shows your current guild and communities.
  2. Join or Create Community – You can use this button to join or create a new community.  This is a new feature and offers a great alternative to custom chat channels.  If you want to join an existing community you need to copy paste the invite link or be invited by a member of the community.
  3. Chat Channel – Here you can view the chat history for your guild or community.  This will save all chat history including when your character is offline.  Watch what you say about the Guild Leader!
  4. Online members – here you can see who is online.  You can right click the member’s name to whisper, request to join group, or ignore from here.
  5. Add to chat window – this is a quick button to add the chat channel to a new or existing tab in your chat interface.
  6. Invite Member – From here you can invite members to your guild or community.  This works the same as typing out /ginvite [MemberName].

This is the Guild Roster panel where you can view a lot of information about the members of your guild.  Want to know who can craft that item you need?  Or when they were last online?  Here is where you would find out.

Guild Panel Roster

  1. Show Offline Members – You can select to show or not show offline members with this check box.
  2. View Drop-down – Here you can show your members Achievement Points (this is really just the general list of your members as shown above)  the other option in this drop down will show all of your members grouped by their Profession.
  3. Member Roster – Here is some general information about your guild members such as level, class, online status, rank and any notes that you have added.  In my guild we label which characters belong to which main player.
  4. Recruitment – is an in game method that players can use to find a guild.  This button opens the recruitment interface.
  5. Guild Settings – This will open up another panel that allows you to edit ranks permissions for changing things in the guild interface and also for the guild bank.

If you need something crafted the easiest way to find out if anyone has the recipe that you need is by checking the professions view of the Guild Roster panel.

Guild Panel Roster Professions

Click View All will open up a crafting interface similar to what you see in your own crafting.

Guild Crafters

  1. Search will allow you to find the pattern that you want
  2. View Crafters will show you who can craft the item that is selected in the recipe list

The Recruitment panel in WoW allows you to post a summary of your guild and allows an easy way for members to contact you.  You get here by click on the Roster button on the side bar then clicking Recruitment at the bottom of this screen.

Guild Panel Recruitment

I’m not sure how well this works, to this date I have not received a single inquiry based on our posting to the in game system.  This may be due to the type of player that I am targeting.  Systems like these may be more successfully used by larger guilds with more general recruitment.

Guild Settings is where you make changes to what a member can do in your guild inteface and what they can view and withdrawal from the guild bank.  To get to Guild Control open the Guild Panel and click the Roster or Info tab on the right side.  From here click the Guild Settings button which will be near the bottom of the screen.  The drop down at the top of the Guild Control panel will let you view Rank Permission and Bank Permissions.

Guild Settings Rank Permission

Guild Settings is where you make changes to what a member can change in your guild interface and what they can view and withdrawal from the guild bank.  To get to your Guild Control open the Guild Panel and click the Roster or Info tab on the right side.  From here click the Guild Settings button which will be near the bottom of the screen.  The drop down at the top of the Guild Control panel will let you view Rank Permission and Bank Permissions.  Click the drop down and change to Bank Tab Permissions.

Guild Settings Bank Permissions

Select the rank that you would like to modify and you can allow the member to view, deposit and withdrawal items based on their rank.  Keep in mind that items can be split up into single stacks in the bank and cannot be restacked without counting as a daily withdrawal.  This allows for most strict management of consumables for your players.  So if you would like to allow players to receive 20 food, this will count as 1 withdraw item per day if it is a stack of 20.  If you would like to limit the daily withdrawal to 1 food you can split the stack of food into stacks of 1.

The Perks tab shows you all of the benefits that you currently get as a guild member.

Guild Panel Perks

  1.  Guild Perks – These are all of the benefits that you currently have by being a member of the guild.
  2. Guild Rewards – These are the rewards that you have unlocked and the amount of gold that your guild receives for each achievement unlocked
  3. Guild Reputation – this is your personal reputation for the guild.  You can raise your reputation in the guild by doing certain activities in the game.

This is the Info panel of your guild interface.  Here you can view a summary of what is going on for guild activities.

Guild Panel Info

  1. Info – This shows your weekly Guild Challenges.  These must be done in a guild group in order to get credit
  2. Message of the Day – This is where you would put a quick communication to your members.  This shows up for a member when they log in.
  3. Guild Information – Here you can include more information about your guild without the small text limit of the GMOTD (Guild Message of the Day).  Usually You will find information on the general schedule, links to voice chat or websites and any other important information.
  4. Guild News – Here you can view milestones that your members have achieved and you are able to adjust your filters to show different types of milestones.
  5. View Log – This shows you all members joining, leaving, and rank changes

Guild Panel View Log

I hope that you found this guide helpful.  The new layout takes some getting used to but is much more visually appealing that the previous interface.

Having trouble finding a function in your guild interface?  Leave a comment and I’ll help you out!  Happy gaming!

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Purple shirt…I want it so bad

There is a tailor recipe that only drops off of a specific mob in Razorfen Kraul called the Rich Purple Shirt and what started out as a quick way to farm some gold became a mild obsession of mine.  I started by farming the whole dungeon taking down every mob in the place.  This of course took forever.  I needed to trim down my time spent on this and make this farm a bit more efficient.  There were many reported drops form a mob called the Razorfen Beast Stalker which are in the front of the dungeon.  I started just farming the beginning of the dungeon, run out, reset, repeat.  I was doing this 10 runs at a time until I reached the instance cap and couldn’t zone in any longer.  At this point I was having a little bit of fun and started running a stop watch to see how fast I could go.  I got my runs down to about 3 minutes a piece on my mage.  After about  40 runs of this dungeon I hopped on my 110 goblin rogue and with sprint was able to get the runs down to about 2 minutes a run.

I have gotten a ton of cool looking transmog greens doing these runs.  Which I know these pieces sell for a lot, but they move sloooooow.  I’ll be honest, I’m hurting for gold right now.  I used to have some pretty reliable methods for making gold but now with Legion winding down the prices have been all over the place.  So I’ll keep farming my greens and if they don’t sell I’ll break them down into enchanting materials, after equipping them all for my own fashionable reasons.

My time this morning to run RFK 10 times was 21 minutes and 49 seconds and I still haven’t gotten my purple shirt!  I can’t tell you what I’ll do once it does drop.  I could sell it like I had originally planned or I can learn it and make some money from slow moving cosmetic items.  I’ll just have to let you know when I get it.  Happy farming all!

Filling the ranks

Recruitment is one of the biggest part of running a guild, especially if your goals involve scheduled play where you need a dozen or more players to even participate.  We are currently in the ramp up stage of recruiting which is a place that I’ve been in a few times when jumping into a new game.  I marinated on bring the guild into WoW for a few weeks to see if the itch to jump back into it all would pass, it didn’t.  First I reached out to all the people that I played with previously including a friend who normally filled the officer role.  This brought back some familiar faces and ramped up the excitement for the new game we were playing.  Next I start to look for the best way to find our ideal candidate and I’m overwhelmed by the amount of different platforms that seem to be everywhere for WoW.  I update our guild’s profile on a variety of platforms and sites and while having this information out there and up to date will be useful in the future, it was not bringing us very many players.

There are a few recruitment methods that I’m considering:

  • Spamming – quick way to get bodies into your guild and great for groups with a focus on general activity.  Most likely you will not get the exact type of player you want by announcing “message me for a guild invite!”  By opening the flood gates, you could be setting yourself up for headaches in the future.
  • Targeted recruitment – What I mean by targeted recruitment is finding the specific qualities that I want in a player and pursuing them.  I both sell our brand and share our goals.  If we both want the same thing then I speak to each candidate in person and offer them a trial position in the guild.
  • Partnering with another guild – This will most likely get you the most members for the least amount of time investment.  A lot of the time partnering with another guild requires compromise and changing your vision for the guild, allowing new leadership to take charge or become officers.
  • Community interactions – one way to grown in a semi-organic way is through making your presence know through community interactions.  This is a slow process but I have found some great friends this way.  Being active on a forum talking about things that I’m interested in has found me some allies.  This is more of an indirect way to find new friends and guildies.
  • WoW Communities – this is a new social platform in wow that allows you to join a group without leaving your current guild.  I’m currently experimenting with a “I want to raid eventually” type of community.  I don’t expect it to take off until the beginning of the new expansion when a lot of players return.  I’m hoping to drum up a sort of larger guild type community with more relaxed standards for membership than what will be required in our raid groups.

The raider is a fickle creature, easily spooked by unrest and sometimes difficult to reassure.  I’ve seen it before where a guild with the best of intention winds up not being a great fit for a small group of its members, who eventually leave.  I don’t want that to happen, so I make it clear what the goals of the guild are and reinforce that message periodically.  Ideally I like to recruit enough people around to run a small bench to ensure that we are not short on our raid nights.

For those out there who have participated in the guild recruitment process, both recruiting and being recruited.  How did you find a guild?  Did they reach out to you, or did you find them?  What did you like/dislike about the experience of being courted.  I need to know!  Help me be better at this 😀


Girl Gamers are Cool

It was late on a Monday night and my shift at the electronics store had just ended.   There was a line of about twenty men all bundled up against the January cold.  I found some of my co-workers that were already ahead of me and bounced up a few places in the line to join them.  All around the excitement was palpable.  Tonight was the night that we were stepping through the Dark Portal.  I chatted happily with my co-workers, most of whom I had played with in some dungeon groups.  I looked around and took note that I was one of only a few women.  I may have been the only one really REALLY in love with this game we were in line for.  One of the guys said to me “You really play WoW?”  I replied “Yes, on my level 60 priest!”  He looked towards his group of friends and said in a hushed voice “That is so cool.”  Yea, that’s right.  I’m a cool.

In the early days of games like Everquest and World of Warcraft, there was a nerdy stigma around the men that played a game like that.  Every once in a while a story about a poor lonely kid who played one of these games non stop would die, or commit a violent act and the focus of the story was how he played this game.  Which I thought was crazy…didn’t most people play games?  Most men that I knew were too embarrassed to tell others that they played one of these MMOs.  They were the nerdiest of the nerd games…right?  How odd it was to be a woman playing these same games and feel like the coolest chick around.

Saturday comes around and I rock my gamer t-shirts that shows how I love to spend my time.  I do the normal things that you would expect a thirty-something mom to do on the weekend.  I grocery shop or take my kid to the park all while representing my games.  Ever so often I would lock eyes with a nerd out in the wild.  I would nod their way as if to say “yea, I know I’m wearing a super geeky symbol.  I did it on purpose.”

I’ve tried on a few occasions to explain my hobby to other women that don’t play video games.  “First I get on my computer and play a character that I can use to fight bad guys.”  I would explain, “Then I get on a voice over IP chat with a group of other people playing the game and we would work cooperatively to kill a dragon!”  This explanation was often met with puzzled looks.  “So is it like a chat room?” one woman asks.  I try to hold back an exasperated sigh.  “Yea, that’s one part of it.”  I guess there is chat in the game right?  That doesn’t even scratch the surface of what these games are!

A few months ago my parents were visiting my little family of three during the launch of some new raid content.  I asked my mother if she would watch my daughter while my husband and I played the new content with our guild.  I told her “The doors to a new fortress are opening and there’s a big race to be the first to kill the bosses.  We have to get together with 20 other people and kill some dragons”  She seemed to understand, after all my father had been playing MMOs for years.  “So are you going somewhere downtown to do all this?” she says to me.  I never came close to a real life face palm before this moment.  What weird sh*$ did she think we were into?  “No mom, we’re not LARPing, we’re doing all this on the computer”    Of course my father is barely holding it together during all of this. With a little help from dad, and after explaining what ‘LARPing’ was, she agreed to baby sit for us and gave us a much needed long stint of raiding.

I don’t know why gamer chicks are so cool.  Maybe the fact that playing video games, and playing them well is generally a male dominated arena.  I know some women can grab an xbox remote and smoke everyone in counterstrike.  A now retired Danica Patrick excelled in a sport that is primarily a boys club.  Our world is changing for the better in this way.  When a women decides to play in an arena generally dominated by men, other take notice.


Dusting off the raiding boots

I took a long break from raiding starting in 2014 after a stint in a game that broke my spirit when it came to running a raiding guild.  This game was called Wildstar and it promised to be a hard core raiders dream.  It turned out that people didn’t stick with the raiding for one reason or another and our guild imploded leaving us a loss for what to do.  I can’t blame my extended hiatus from gaming solely on this experience.  Shortly after we stop playing together I was expecting my first child.  I won’t lie, pregnancy kicked my ass.  I spent a lot of time with my feet elevated playing tablet games.  As in a ton of Hearthstone.  Of course the first year of my daughter’s life proved difficult to get on the computer for anything longer nap time.  I picked up one of those games that I always find myself returning to, Star Wars Galaxies.  I mostly wanted to chat with people so I rolled an entertainer and watched the chat scroll as my character danced poorly for warriors preparing for the hunt.  Since the leveling part of this class could be done while I was AFK (Away from keyboard) I felt like I was progressing without having to be present the entire time.

And this was my gaming life for a while.  Of course I picked up the Legion expansion of WoW and had a blast for several months playing casually. I played through the revival of Secret World Legends.  I was enjoying the content but missed my friends and without friends to play with, an MMO soon loses its appeal.

Last year I found myself in the hospital and my husband brought the laptop with an old MMO installed.  To my delight the wi-fi worked well and I got to work leveling my character.  For 3 days, I played my heart out in this game and found a renewed sense of excitement that I haven’t felt for a long time.  The hubby and I got to level cap and started to build up our characters making them stronger each day.  When it came time to do the large scale content with groups of 25 people, I didn’t hesitate.  I wanted to raid again!

Keeping your players engaged

Burnout and boredom are real killers in a game.  I once tracked our member turnover and found in the worst of times that we would lose about 20% of our members per month.  There were a lot of things working against us.  The raid content was completed and most of the members have done the fights at least 30 times, some of them had done it a lot more than that on alternate or alt characters.  We were a guild primarily focused on raiding which are large group content and normally the hardest group content in MMOs.  When the raids stopped being exciting we had to find ways to keep our guild members happy and engaged.

Good ol’ raid/character progression is one of my favorite ways to play a game and keep everyone engaged.  We were rewarded with better armor and weapons each time we killed the bosses, which also made the fights easier. Every week we get a little bit better through repetition and we complete things a little bit quicker.  This allows time to learn the new encounters and eventually we experienced the thrill of a fresh kill.  Of course this only occurs in a time with new content that we haven’t completed.

Sometimes I didn’t have to do much to keep players engaged because everyone would self entertain.  We always played with competitive people that wanted to do the best that they could and beat the next best player on those damage meters.  For those not familiar with damage meters it is a ranking of who does the best on any given fight.  This would lead to individuals spending their time researching ways to better play their class, grind for that item that would result in a small increase in productivity and lastly taking more risks in a fight to squeeze out that extra small amount of damage.  Sometimes all that stood between you and the next person was one more spell being completed.

In the weeks prior to a big game release we once had A Great Level One Race, which was a type of event that I always remember fondly.  We all create brand new characters and gather together in a giant group.  We had everyone start in one place and gave them a finish line. We offered up a pretty substantial prize for the winner, so even if you had no interest in playing the silly game that we created, that prize encouraged you to give it a try.  We all twittered on our voice chat while we raced for the prize.  There was only a little bit of cheating.  It was a great time.

Testing the new content before it was released to the public was another great way for us to bond.  If there was new large scale content available for the players to try out I made sure that we were there.  I would send messages to the developers and offer up our services for testing to make sure that if they needed people to test, that our names would come up. It was such a thrill to be part of an exclusive group that got to check out content and offer our opinions and expertise as gamers to the creators of the games that we loved.

This week we decided to do a little extra tracking as we worked through a raid that we have just completed the week before.  It took us a total of 4.7 hours to complete the whole thing, this week we decided to use that as a bench mark and work on shaving minutes off of that time.  I had this plan to do things differently.  Maybe clear non boss mobs more quickly, time before a boss encounter could be shaved down to 5 seconds from 10. When we can see ourselves improving each week it keep us motivated to keep the momentum going.

Guild Meetings are one of my favorite ways to keep up with players, especially if you are planning on playing something that has yet to launch.  I don’t schedule our meetings past 30 minutes.  The goal is to get people talking to eachother and hopefully creating friendships and bonds with others in the group. After all we are here to have fun.

What activities keeps you playing with your guild?

Start at the beginning

My first soiree into guild leadership happened in an explosion of drama, which I somehow became the catalyst.  “We are supposed to be a hard core guild,” I said “You can’t cancel a raid just because you can’t make it!!”  Our argument was a whirl of purple text from our in game whispers, which were anything but quiet.  Our guild was named Nox, which means night or something like that and we had a great start as a guild.  We were wracking up the accomplishments and able to brag that we were 4/5 in bosses defeated.  Only one more to go…and the Guild Leader was CANCELING!  “I won’t have it!”  I fumed, “this is not how this works!”

Cali has been removed from the guild

Kicked.  How can he kick me?  I wasn’t the problem.  From there I can only describe what came next as a scheme.  Like any respectable guild at the time we had a website where we all communicated daily and on this website I still had access.  I began my plea in a forum private mesage (PM) to all of my guildmates asking them to to reject the bad leadership and join me on a new adventure.  And join me they did!

I stood in our main city hub, staring at a blank text box asking me to name the guild.  I’m terrible at naming things.  I typed in some text and created the guild.  I knew that everyone would get a kick out of this temporary name that I picked and make me change it in a week.

You have joined Cali Killed Nox

Little did I know that we would play under that guild name for the next 4 years…

Yes, I’m in charge

I make it a point to talk to every new member that joins the guild.  When I open my mouth, I hear surprise in their voices when it becomes apparent that I am a woman.  Yes, I am a woman that leads a group of hard core gamers and does so successfully.  I’ve been gaming since a time when encountering a real girl in any video game was akin to finding a unicorn in your backyard.  I stepped into my first virtual world in 2003 in a Galaxy Far Far Away and have been drinking in every MMO that I can get my hands on.  I didn’t care if I was playing in a fresh, shiny new game, old and forgotten, or one in development.  I loved them all!

Part of what makes me a good guild leader is that I am ambitious and competitive.  I want to be the best that I can be and push my friends to be as well.  I want to be to be able to brag to everyone around that “we are world first!” and that they would be in awe of our awesome guild.  I want us to always get better every time we do something we need to do it a little bit better.

I maintain an absolute dictatorship over my members, which means that what I say goes and if you don’t like, tough cookies.  It may sound extreme but we do so in the name of efficiency.  When we only have a limited number of hours in the day to play our games, we shouldn’t be spending an hour of it discussing and voting on what strategy we’ll be using or what color our guild tabard will be.  We are picky about the friends we keep and we get things done that not everyone gets to see in these games.  We love to play this way and surround ourselves with like-minded people that want to trudge through and drag the raid week after week just to FINALLY kill that boss we’ve been working so hard on and discussing at length.  Do you ever hear those videos of excitement and yelling after a boss finally dies?  Yea, that’s me.